Bill and Melinda Gates 3 myths that block progress for the poor:
1. Poor countries are doomed to stay poor.
2. Foreign aid is a big waste.
3. Saving lives leads to overpopulation.

More: 2014 Gates Annual Letter, Bill Gates @ Jimmy Fallon.

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May 3, 2015

Most foreign aid is a waste, it doesn't help the local population. Say there is a drought, people are starving, we send in foreign aid in the way of wheat. What happens? The local wheat farmers can't compete with free wheat, so they don't plant, which means there is no new crop, which means no food, which leads to staving people, which leads to more foreign aid. That's assuming that the aid even reaches the people it's intended to help, given the scandals. Aid going to the military, aid going into bank accounts, food aid being sold or those who receive the aid are forced to give some to landlords.

IF you're going to give aid, you're far better oft buy as much as you can locally, that gives incentives for people to improve their farming methods, meaning more food, it also get money in the local economy which get businesses growing. You see even when there is massive starvation, food is generally available, but the price is too high, if you help the poor buy food from local sources it's a win win.

The way we currently do foreign aid is a waste, we basically destroy the countries ability to dig itself out so they become dependent on the aid, forever.

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1 vote,
May 3, 2015

"Most foreign aid is a waste, it doesn't help the local population."

I think you're overly negative. There's lots of kinds of aid that work really well, and there is lots of evidence that foreign aid has helped countries immensely. Free vaccines have eradicated certain diseases in large swathes of the developing world.

Emergency food aid keeps people alive not just through droughts, but also in refugee camps. There is no local food to buy in these places. Other emergency aid improves recovery after war and natural disasters by providing e.g. transportation and clean water — basic stuff that people need in order to rebuild their lives. This stuff helps poor countries from falling over completely in a crisis, and keeps the development index from climbing back down.

Developmental aid, intended to reduce poverty and the type of aid that Bill Gates was talking about, isn't typically food. Vaccines is one example, which I've already mentioned. Water pumps and water purifiers also contribute to better public health and all the subsequent benefits. Initiatives that promote and enable education have also been shown to be effective forms of aid.

However, you are of course correct in that not *all* aid is effective. "Aid" is sometimes given for the wrong reasons (like when we sent a surplus of vegetables to Africa where it just rots) or in the wrong way (like when we sent money to Mobutu to help Zaire). Foreign aid, like everything, must be done properly for it to work.

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May 3, 2015

Even when there is is drought there is food available, but the price is too high for the people to afford. But once you start bring in free food how do the local farmer's compete? They can't, why buy it when you can get it for free? Then the farmers don't have to funds to upgrade or plant crops and even if they did why bother, you won't get a return on your investment.

Sure this is some aid that does some good, but in general, food aid (unless said food bought locally until the supply is exhausted) only destroys the countries ability to feed itself. Developmental aid doesn't do much good unless there is a stable government and said government allows foreign investment and ownership.

The "problem" with foreign aid is that outsider's try and do things the locals don't want or need. They TELL the locals what they MUST do, instead of listening to what they want and need. They may need and want a school, but they also need the sexes to be separate. While you might not see that as important, in many cultures that is very important.

Short term aid from a disaster if it's really short term is fine, but short term aid generally become long term and the country never really recovers.

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Jan 7, 2016

I like your analysis on foreign aid and how it really doesn't help the local people who need it the most.

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Oct 7, 2015

These statements are indeed mythical. They may remain true, but that would be on us.

The first, that poor countries are destined to stay poor, has a complicated rub to it. If the resource and ecological situation looked more like the 17th-19th centuries, then no, it'd be simply grotesque if poor countries remained poor. However, now it may be that the whole planet must cut back on their living standards. It seems likely that poor countries would in any scenario be able to grow somewhat (while rich countries would need to make major sacrifices to their living standards), but it may not be possible for all of the world to live a European lifestyle.

The second again has a caveat: Foreign aid has to be done correctly. Many forms of foreign aid can lead to unnecessary projects instead of real infrastructure, the enrichment of tribal leaders and corrupt local and even national bureaucrats, dependency and the destruction of local industry.

The third is totally true. In fact, when people die, their family members tend to want to replace them. The best route to reducing population is to promote education, opportunities for women outside of the home, the growth of living standards, and contraceptives. When people have a choice, they tend to not have enough children to grow the population.

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May 3, 2015

The first two I agree with entirely. The third, pending that an actual feasible solution is derived, I do believe is accurately a fact, not a myth.

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May 3, 2015

Saving lives DOES lead to overpopulation, if you don't do anything to fix the underlying problems.

The cure for overpopulation is education. Simply saving lives is not the same as educating people.

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May 3, 2015

What is it with you people and this over population BS and BS is what it is. We in American Alone could supply food to every country and still have some left over. Right now the Federal Government pays people to not raise food. Jesus.

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May 3, 2015

The existence of extra food in America isn't very helpful when you're a dirt-poor villager in Africa.

We also don't grow that much food. Go look at where all the produce in your local supermarket comes from. Much of it is from Mexico. We have to use our food to produce ethanol, a fuel.

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May 3, 2015

The root of that problem isn't the raw resource availability, but a corrupt culture that prevents the development of adequate infrastructure. I'm not going to argue the cause of that cultural breakdown here, as that's a whole other issue, but it's hard to deny that it is primarily a cultural problem.

Wtinc is not incorrect regarding the mind-boggling over-abundance of actual human-supporting-resources in the world. We're no where near out population limit on the planet, and actually overpopulation is a good ways off still.

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May 3, 2015

Of course it's a cultural problem, but ignoring it isn't going to change it. We've had corrupt cultures since humans started living in anything larger than a small tribe, so that's something you need to deal with. There's no way to get America's extra food to villagers in Africa without dealing with that corruption somehow, and considering we haven't figured out how to do it yet, a quick solution is not likely.

Yes, if we lived in some utopian society where corruption didn't exist, then it's true we wouldn't be anywhere near the population limit. But we don't live in such a utopian society, not by a long shot. So, we have all kinds of resource problems: there's food shortages, freshwater shortages, energy shortages, medicine shortages, etc. Many of these are made worse by political divisions: you can't just build an wind-energy farm in country A and use that energy in country B, because there's all kinds of political considerations, middlemen who want to be paid off, currency exchanges necessary, etc.

More population just exacerbates all of these problems.

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May 3, 2015

that is my point we are importing food from other countries granted we can not grow some of it, but a majority of it were paying our own farmers not to grow.

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May 3, 2015

I agree whole with my whole heart. Our drive to imperialism of the oldest cultures in the world have cause real damage. The realization that our influence comes with strings attached is what causes the resentments that are the makings of war. The facts stand up when you look at them. You can not help where it is not wanted or requested. Sure our culture is bound to the seven missions of mercy but that is but a kind myth to deal with the guilt of knowing we think we have the answers. If those people lived for thousands of years they will find a way to keep going without our help. If they ask we should do just what they ask and nothing more. I could go on about the wells we built so the natives could have water but we never gave them parts or the training to repair them now they just rust away. Technology may not be the gift we think it is.

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May 3, 2015

3. If you save lives by healing people and relationships, then this creates a healthy balance so it would not cause overpopulation but more sustainable relations and structure within the given populations to stabilize it.

2. Yes and no, Foreign Aid wasted by handouts to corrupt leadership/govt is pouring money away. But Foreign Aid invested in Microlending, Business Training and Development, and Sustainable Campuses for education, training and health/social services would be more cost-effective. Ex: Architecture for Humanity, Pace Universal,
Grameen Foundation and other programs that invest in longterm development

1. See #2 If resources are invested and organized effectively, all countries can develop populations under all the different stages of economic and political growth, similar to a tiered academic system of classes, for the purpose of moving upward. Nobody has to stay in poverty; we need to set up a network where people of different classes and stages can access education and assistance to work their way up.

Example: campusplan.org rightsfortheworkers.org

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Jan 7, 2016

Our use of foreign aid is not only a waste it is criminal. Obama had used our foreign aid to force African nations to change their laws to allow abortion and gay marriage. Foreign aid has become extortion. I think in Chicago politics it's call 'the shakedown'.

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May 3, 2015

This really needs to be broken into 3 polls.

1. Is a Myth. Countries have grown dramatically once their culture became conducive to it.

2. Is not a myth. We see very little results for the amount of foreign aid we pay for.

3. Is a Myth, as there is a positive correlation between population and the rate of increase in quality of life. As counter-intuitive as it seems, more people means better quality of life as we have more minds working on any given problem, increasing the rate at which that problem will be solved.

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User voted No, not at all.
1 vote
May 3, 2015

I rarely agree with Mr. Gates on anything. He's not a very good barometer of what normal people think and do.

I have no problem with him doing whatever he wants with his, most likely, ill gotten gains. I have a huge problem with Mr. Gates speaking for the rest of us.

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