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Apr 8, 2015

I'm torn on this one. On one hand I'm not a fan of prohibition in any form from Government that is solely in the interest of protecting us from ourselves. The Government is not our parent and doesn't know better for us than we do, even if they do, who gave them that responsibility?

On the other hand, I worry about the negative side affects. Right now there is a lucrative black market for a fairly harmless substance (marijuana), legalizing as most others have said would pretty much kill the high profit margins as competition forced prices down. My worry is that criminals will always be criminals and will follow the money. Instead of selling weed to kids at a high school, maybe they will move to kidnapping and human trafficking of young women. I'd prefer we leave a few semi-harmless things on the outlaw side of the equation to occupy their efforts.

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3 votes,
Apr 8, 2015

Now this is a twist on the slippery slope argument. You really think that some pot head selling extra dope to get himself some free bud is going to start raping and kidnapping when we legalize the stuff? Even if you are talk about some gun toting street thugs, if they are going to do these sorts of things then they are already doing it. There is nothing that will make me believe that because we legalize that people are going to start doing other things to get their rocks off.

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Apr 8, 2015

Talking more about Mexican drug cartels and mafiosa types and their ilk thank the average dealer in your hometown.

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2 votes,
Apr 8, 2015

I take two issues with this position.

First is this idea that the government is protecting us by keeping it illegal. It's fairly well documented that cannabis has a less harmful effect than alcohol. The government knows this. The DEA knows this. So you have to ask yourself, who are they really protecting?

1) Big pharma
2) The prison industrial complex
3) CIA "cartels"

It can also be debated that it's been kept illegal as an easy method of legally persecuting minorities. After a few decades of the war on drugs, there's quite a bit of hard evidence to suggest that the laws aren't equally enforced.

Secondly, is it really worth imprisoning people who haven't committed a violent crime for the sake of your hypothesis? It doesn't seem right to be willing to destroy the lives of hundreds of thousands of people, at the cost of millions to society, to prevent some of them from maybe doing something worse. Why don't we just make it illegal to yell? Because people who yell are angry, and angry people can be violent.

I just find that entire line of reasoning extremely flawed. The people who grow cannabis are all around us. They are our neighbors, co-workers, friends, and family.

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1 vote,
Apr 8, 2015

I guess this is a different take on marijuana as a gateway drug...now it's a gateway crime. Their is a huge difference between a criminal and a violent criminal.

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Apr 8, 2015

I have never been a dealer, nor have I ever been a user, but I have had a lot of associations over the years with dealers and at varying levels of the drug trade and other things on the shady side of the law. I've also lost some friends to heroin. I can tell you for a fact that there is a major leap to be made from what these people I have known over the years are doing (dealing) to kidnapping and human trafficking. I can't stress that enough. Trading in people is several major steps above dealing even hard drugs like PCP and crack. I've seen a lot of mental gymnastics to get around a very wide birth of amoral gray area ground, but never enough in the overwhelming majority of these people to be able to justified something on that scope.

If you're ok with switching your criminal career to something akin to the human slave trade, then you've already most likely started making in roads to that choice with out worrying about legalization.

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