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Nov 28, 2015

To make a basic analogy, I like to compare guns with cooking knives. If you teach a kid to properly handle a sharp cooking knife when they are young they learn respect for the dangers of that knife and only use it in a safe manner. With guns, I think childhood education is vital to maintaining a safe society where people can freely carry weapons with respect to the principles of the second amendment.

Also, in crimes committed with guns you find a very high likelihood that the guns was poorly maintained or just not set up correctly at all. Police commonly find perps who load up the wrong kind of ammunition or load it incorrectly. I think this is a testament to the fact that the uneducated lack respect for the power of a gun.

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4 votes,
Nov 28, 2015

Teaching kids how to properly handle a gun will only make them more dangerous to themselves and to others around them. They're just kids! Teaching them things like that is expecting them to be responsible. And that's something you rarely can expect even from adults.

I agree that you need to educate your child about guns and threats. But handling a gun is too much.

The best way to prevent gun accidents is to ban all guns. They are tools, I know. But you can kill using a hammer... And it is not designed to kill people. Guns are designed just for that.

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100
2 votes,
Nov 28, 2015

Putting any kid around a gun has a potential for danger, just like knives, hammers, and any other dangerous object. We can't simply ban all dangerous objects to keep them out of the hands of kids or irresponsible people. I definitely think no parent should allow access to their guns while they aren't supervising them, but to deny access to everyone on legal grounds removes any possibility of education about these weapons. An educated child/person will be no more dangerous than a uneducated one, in fact considerably less so.

To ban guns outright only takes them out of the hands of the people who need them and in to the hands of criminals and smugglers.

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6 votes,
Nov 28, 2015

We can't simply ban all dangerous objects to keep them out of the hands of [...] irresponsible people - true, but we have to ban some of them. Otherwise any psychopath would be able to buy a machine gun or a bomb. There must be a limit, and I think guns are above it. Why should we educate anyone how to shoot or what guns are? Every single person knows that guns are extremely dangerous and you can easily kill a man with them. Every teenager knows it.

An educated child/person will be no more dangerous than a uneducated one, in fact considerably less so. - I'm not so sure. They will know what gun is, they will know how to use it. You see, if you have ever tried a marijuana, even once, there's a higher probability that you will try it again - only because you know it, I'm not talking about addiction. If you know how to kill, there's a higher probability you'll do it.

As for the smugglers, it is a completely different topic. We can't make thing A work improperly because thing B is flawed. We definitely should fight the criminals and smugglers. If somebody really needs a gun, he should pass some tests and I don't see a problem then.

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100
3 votes,
Nov 28, 2015

Well, let me make me an example. I owned my first pocket knife at age 4. I owned my first BB gun at age 7. I owned my first .22 semi-auto rifle at age 12 1/2. I'm now 55 years old and have *NEVER* had an occasion to shoot someone, had an accidental discharge or even a misdemeanor and I have certainly not ever considered shooting someone seriously that hasn't been a criminal aggressor. And, thanks to firearms, I've never had to defend myself against the five individuals that have attempted to rob or harm me. Display of a weapon was enough for them to decide it was time to be somewhere else doing something else.

As for "buying a bomb", what store do you shop at, Terrorists'R'Us? Criminals don't buy explosives anymore than they buy guns. They either make some improvised weapon or they steal it or they buy it from some one that has already committed that crime for them. As to "there must be some limit", can you show me one for a determined individual when information is freely available in our society? Look up some chemistry articles, go to the grocery store and a hardware store, create a bomb. Look up some more, go the same two places and spend twenty dollars more and create a deadly skin contact toxin or poisonous gas for twenty dollars. We've let those genies out of the bottle.

As for the "If somebody really needs a gun", can you predict for me when a criminal with a knife will kick down my front door and assault me? How about when it will happen to YOU? Would you want the knowledge and the gun then? Because if that is the case, you need the gun to be in your possession starting right now. The criminals that may be on their way to your house right now aren't about to let you call time out while you run out to the gun shop to make a purchase, it will have to be there, be loaded and be near you to make a difference. And they won't allow you to call time out to call 911 either. Even if you run fast enough or hide well enough to call for the police, they will likely arrive in time to draw a chalk line around your body, take some pictures, dust for prints, sample blood evidence and bag some fibers and hairs. Then they zip you up in a bag and ship you to the morgue to wait for your family to be contacted. That's what they do, it's what they CAN do in many cases.

Teaching as many as are willing of all ages to use a firearm correctly will do three things.
1. Help prevent accidents when someone finds a firearm accidentally.
2. Give them the chance to know a bit about firearms that is NOT some movie stunt hype.
3. Let them have a better grasp for their decision on whether or not they want to enjoy the freedom to own and use a firearm for sport, self - defense and as a citizen of the United States exercising a right and a responsibility our unique nation has embraced for well over 200 years.

Knowledge is really power. How is ignorance better?

Edited for typos.

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100
1 vote,
Nov 28, 2015

We ban automatic weapons and bomb because they are dangerous. But the guns that are legal to own today are involved in far more moments of protection than of crime. The wikipedia article on Defensive Gun Use can give you specific numbers on gun defense. Do we ban these tools of defense against both crime and government overstepping because of skewed statistics? Everyone knows that guns can kill whether or not you are trained to use them, just like knives and hammers. Training people to use and respect them from an early age allows us to have responsible use of a tool that is instrumental in keeping peace in the US.

I'm not sure I follow the marijuana example. People try MJ multiple times because it is a fun and safe high. Having parents teach their children about gun use doesn't encourage those kids to go out and use those guns, it merely trains them in their operation and instills respect for the weapons in the child. No murderer has ever had his killings blamed on the fact that his parents taught him how to use a gun.

If we were to ban guns outright instead of teach people their appropriate use it would only lead to a black market for guns, much like the prohibition of alcohol. If that were to occur then the 'gun safe' society we have would no longer exist and instead be forced to deal with violence centered around illegal gun-running.

We either ban them and suffer the consequences or keep them and learn how to use them safely from a young age.

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100
1 vote,
Nov 28, 2015

If your concerned about the loss of life some much why are you not demanding that Autos be ban they kill 35,000 a year, or how about knifes and clubs which kill more than guns. Instead of just repeating what the Media and a few fools cry.

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0 votes,
Nov 28, 2015

There is already a test that every potential gun owner must take. It is a litmus test of sorts. A failing grade on the test means that one doesn't get to buy the gun. If the person is caught lying or cheating on the test, they go to jail.

ATF litmus test for buying Firearms

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100
1 vote,
Nov 28, 2015

Your wrong I have two children from age 4 they were taken out and given instruction on guns and allowed to shoot from that they learned the power of a weapon and never played with one after that. Sorry experience has no substitute

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